Ok men fins det flere her som IKKE synes det er kjedelig? Finnes det flere som LIKER sesongen? Føler meg alene her, gravd ned i «hater denne sesongen» kommentarer.
Enig med deg. Alle evak fans hater Noora og William, noe jeg syntes er veldig merkelig. Jeg syntes, tror og håper vi får en fin avslutning både i forhold Evak og Noorhelm til slutt uten at de tar fokuset fra Sana. I denne episoden var det jo INGEN Noora fokus, annet enn at hun satt og pratet litt med Sana. Noora er også en av dem som er et naturlig sidekick til Sana pga hun alltid har vært litt outsider i gjengen selv (drikker ikke, er ikke med på alle fester etc). Jeg tror rett å slett at med 3 NYDELIGE sesonger av SKAM, så har vi blitt for kravstore og kanskje glemt litt av selve essensen med skam, blitt for opphengt i karakterer osv. Dette merker nok JA også, og jeg forstår godt at de gir seg nå. Det er fem episoder igjen, og snart smeller det nok. Vi får en avklaring i alt vi ønsker og vi ender nok opp med å savne og elske Sana også tilslutt, slik som med de andre.
I want to see Even as much as the next person but before we all start throwing accusations at Julie for «using Even as a shock value», please remember that there is this restriction called POV. Yes, we as viewers, only knew about Even’s s*icide attempt last Friday but Sana already knew about this for two years (and it’s her season now). It’s unfair to say she «didn’t seem concerned» when we know she has been keeping Even’s past a secret, hasn’t told anybody not even the girls & Isak. And last we’ve seen him? He was happy in bed with Isak. Friday’s revelation doesn’t change that. It’d be weird if they suddenly went out of their way to include Even in everything now.
I know people are complaining that the weekday clips are getting so slow and boring but the same complaint was also made during Isak’s season last year, about how the only «big» clips are on Fridays. Anyway, something rarely happens during the week and that’s a fact so let’s just enjoy this last season because there won’t be anything to complain ever again after June :))
Last year the comment section was filled with speculation and analysis all season long, now that is severly lacking. People complained the first few weeks because we were worried Even only played Isak or would out him, and the girls were missed lots, the guys weren’t always on episode 7 onwards level, and a lot of people also asked for Noorhelm and wanted to know how they were doing. Don’t get me started on the Bånder clip when Noora came back, then people weren’t so keen on her coming back at that moment haha. Some of Isak’s clips were slow but we got inside his head and feelings very fast and by the time Mekke Øl happened we all felt the heartbreak and there was no going back. Also all the night clips turned into many sleepless nights, you just couldn’t go to bed because Isak might be up or you just felt his insomnia anyway. It is hard to let go of the previous seasons but I feel like the camera is not focusing as much on Sana and the clips jump more between her feelings so it at times feel a little shallow. But Friday’s clip was amazing and my heart was beating really fast and the way they looked at each other made me feel all these feelings I’ve missed feeling in Skam. And all the shit that will go down will affect Sana hugely so we’ll soon feel what she feels and thinks all the time. I loved this clip because I could do that during her conversation with Sara.
y’all you cant just drop Even’s suicide attempt and not carry on with it + let us find out about it from a third party and not Even himself and then expect us to care about the russ bus stuff. get your shit together.
Kjære SKAM redaksjonen og andre i kommentarfeltet:
Vi er ferdige med Even og Isak. Dere fikk en hel sesong med klining. Resten av oss er lei, eller kan ikke relatere til sesong 3, og ønsker dermed å gå videre.
Er det virkelig bare jeg som er interessert av russebussen? Synes det er vel mye negativitet nå… Og alle som spør om Even: vi kommer helt sikkert til å få vite det tids nok! Tror neppe at Julie er «ferdig» med forklaringa om hva som skjedde mellom han og ballong-gutta 🙂
Jeg synes dette klippet er viktig, det viser hvor redd Sana er for å ikke bli akseptert som russ og «norsk jente». Hun må alltid være i forsvarsposisjon.
men kan dere slutte å mase sånn om å få se hvordan det går med ham fordi du for noen dager siden fikk vite at han en gang forsøkte å ta livet sitt? DET skjedde tross alt et par år tilbake i tid, og jeg vet ikke om du fikk med deg sesong 3, men det går åpenbart mye bedre med Even nå <3 <3 <3 Skal han plutselig reduseres til en stakkar som noen alltid må passe på/sjekke hvordan har det fordi livet var tungt for to år siden? Tror ikke Even ønsker det gitt <3
Du kanske såg hur livrädd han var i korridoren när han spurte Sana om Isak visste någonting, så det är inte så konstigt att folk vill veta hur det går med honom nu eller höra Even själv prata om det som skedde?
Allt som handlar om människor som har blivit förtryckta och aldrig fått stå i centrum på det här viset är väl politiskt vinklat; «politisk korrekthet» eller kan det vara så att det finns fler människor med historier än tjejen som blir kär i drittsekken och han måste få henne till varje pris?
I don’t know what to think about this season anymore. Sana is my favourite character and I feel she’s not getting the attention she deserves. When season 4 was announced I was so excited to see everything from her perspective, to feel what she feels, to learn about her religion and her feelings about it, to know how is her family life. We are getting all of this, yes, but with very small dosis and it’s not enough. I get why the russebuss is important and I get that Sana needs to prove everyone that she’s a normal teenager. I get it and I want to see it, but I don’t want to see that every clip is about this when we have a lot of storylines going on. This season is getting slower and slower and I’m losing my patience.
Also, who believes that since friday Sana and Yousef haven’t talked or see eachother?? Come on, the balloon squad almost live in their home, how is that possible? They had such an important coversation, they opened their hearts and we don’t get anything form their storyline since friday. And what about Elias? Are you telling me that Sana doesn’t care about his brother getting drunk?
I trust Julie and all the people behind this show, I really do, but I just need to feel that Sana’s character gets the attention she deserves.
Hekkan for et mas om Even. Han har en birolle. Nå er Skam tilbake der det skal være. Realistisk ungdomsdrama om stort og smått. Even er en perifer karakter i Sanas univers, derfor er det naturlig at han er en perifer karakter i sesong fire.
Når det gjelder Noora så er det og naturlig at hun er den personen Sana henger mest med. De er i midten av videregående årene og da er det helt naturlig at folk som ikke er veldig opptatt av festing og drikking søker mot hverandre – Sana or Noora har jo mye mer til felles enn f.eks Sana og Chris. Det er også de to som er mest skeptisk og mest ulike «Pepsi Max-gjengen».
Traileren begynner med blodet hans. Når Sana spør Yousef om hvorfor han ikke tror på Allah lenger – noe vi skjønner har enormt stor betydning for om det kan bli de to og for Sanas story – svarer han: «du vet Even…». Da tenker jeg at han har noe mer enn en birolle og at det er helt normalt at vi har forventninger om å se mer til ham. Og jeg føler meg ganske sikker på at forventningene blir innfridd.
Planlegging av russebuss er ikke interessant for noen andre enn de som selv er med på det selv. Dette ligger an til å bli en treig og kjedelig avslutning på en helt fantastisk serie, og det at Sana av alle jentene må få den tørreste sesongen er bare utrolig trist. Pls ikke la Skam ende slik.
Tina, du må bare på fredagene når hele ukes episode legges ut eller slutt å se på SKAM. Julie Andem har lagd 3 flotte sesonger, hvorfor skal ikke nr 4 bli det samme?
Vi har fått med oss at Sana føler seg tilsidesatt. Dette klippet kunne vært ferdig på 30 sekunder. Vi trengte ikke den milelange kjedelige samtalen mellom Noora og Sana. Noora tar all screentimen fra de andre. Vi er jo snart halveis i sesongen og det føles ikke som at det har begynt. Vi fikk liksom akkurat vite at Even prøvde og ta sitt eget liv. Så får vi en fake selfie av Isak og vennene hans som vi aldri hører om mer uannsett. Også skal det liksom holde? Hvordan går det med Even? Det er så sykt urealistisk nå! Er sikkelig skuffa og lei meg over skam i år. Digger Sana, men det handler jo ikke om henne. Det handler om Noora som drikker te og at hun savner han dusten i London. Hade Skam. Si ifra når sesong 4 har tenkt og begynne.
Vore bra om Even flyttade in hos Noora i kollektivet och en dygnet-runt-kamera visar dem i bild hela tiden,oavbrutet, i varje sekund hela 2017!
Evenälskarma får sitt, Nooraälskarna sitt.Inga treminutersklipp!
Och så kan Julie A ta ledigt- det behöver hon nog efter allt gnäll om hur dålig s 4 är.Jag skulle skicka blommor och tacka för stor tv-konst!
Its obvious that viewers outside Noreay don’t understand about russebusses, but please! Skam was first made for Norwegians viewers and here this is very normal and natural to be interested in! I think many of you are rude towards the skamteam! We should all appreciate what they have given us!
All of you who are hating om Noora as well! I don’t get it. She is closest to Sana and therefore she is a lot around her. The story is still about Sana.
I feel many viewers have changed. Many are so demanding and the vibe here is not the same anymore. I miss the good and caring posts from earlier seasons. Please, be patient, be kind! Julie, you have done a fantastisk job with Skam,- thank you! I thought I would never say this, but I can understand that you will end the show, now. I think what we now see, is that the squad splittes up, the friendships changes and our girls will probably never be on the russebuss together, unfotunately.. I will miss Skam very much, but I realise that it soon is time to say goodbye.. :'(
Evens suicide attempt was the year before he met Isak. Safe to say he is doing ok now, although living as a bipolar person will always be hard in many ways. Thankfully he had Sonja that took care of him and it also seemed like he had the support of his parents. Now Isak is there for him and they are still going strong it seems like. We will have to see what happens when Isak finds out about Mikael. I think he will handle that well, but probably be hurt in some way that Even didn’t tell him about it.
I have no idea why you’re making this about Isak..can I talk about Even a character I relate to and his well being without you dragging it back to Evak.. Again?! That’s not what defines him.
Salt
LOL at the person pretending to be different people in the comment section. Nobody said Even is nothing outside of Evak. The recent plot concerning him has shown that he wishes to keep his past from Isak. Safe to assume that the reason is that he is afraid of his reaction. It is literally why Even is worried right now so how is theorizing about that «making it all about Isak»? Being in love with someone means that your own happiness is deeply affected by how the other person is doing. This goes for both Isak and Even and does not mean that they are erasing each other.
Who are you salt?
What are you talking about different people you make no sense? This is a comment section of course there are different people. You have trust issues Salt? Anyway Evak is not what people are concerned about in this thread of conversation is bye.
So
What are you talking about? Your comment still has no relation to my original post. I’m not talking about Isak or Mikael why bring them up? It was irrelevant make your own comment. And you’re still erasing even by doing so
Lol
People have better things to do with their lives Sodium my dear, I’m the third reply to your comment, your reply to the comment was irrelevant. If you want to talk about Evak do that in your own thread. That’s not what op was talking about. And waxing on about love still. Has.no.point.to.knowing.how.Even.is. So make a comment about Evak thanks bye.
Paul
I don’t know what that comment is? Had nothing to do with the original comment. I’m tired of hearing about Evak, but it would be nice to see a just a small text from even after what we learn.
Cecilie
Legit stop talking over people just interested to find out how a character is doing. All this He’s fine now forget about it lets talk about Evak instead!!! Newsflash not everybody wants to talk about Evak 24/7 or Mikael.
Go away 1995
That comment had nothing to do with Even and his relationship, people can be curious about Even outside of Evak.
What?
Nobody mentioned Isak and Mikael why are you talking about them?
Lewis
People can be concerned about Even without thinking about Isak. Although this seems to be brand new information to you.
Reece
Even has no perogative to share his history before he’s ready in the same way I’m sure isak hasn’t told him what he did in series 1. It’s his past. Stop trying to vilify him. In fact I don’t even know why we’re talking about Evak, people just are bored of the bus and curious as to how Even is.
Eni
Well I’m sure Eva and Jonas will be hurt if they knew he snaked their way into their relationship and ruined it. So we all have a past. Don’t know why you’re making this about Isaks pain and Evak when people just want to know how Even is.
Lol
I don’t know who you are 1995 but I didn’t ask you. Bye. Your reply had nothing to do with my comment. Go away.
C.N.
@Lol or @So, whoever you are.
1995’s comment actually had lots to do with your post.
You wondered how Even is doing after he to cure his sexuality and then take his own life in 2015. 1995 therefore gave you a summary of how life has been in 2016 and so far in 2017…
C.N.
#INeedBetterKeyboard
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jeg tror vi forventer rask utvikling jmfr julies «shit’s bout to go down». men, de nye karakterene må introduseres, og konfliktlinjene må etableres først. vi har sanas familie, brorens vennegjeng, hennes forhold til egen tro, nærheten til familien (vil ikke skuffe), utenforskapet i flere leire. mye nytt. hadde alt blitt sagt høyt, hadde serien virket simpel og uten lag. her viser man, framfor å fortelle. jeg har trua.
Digger dette klippet!!! Akkurat sånn opplevde jeg ungdomstiden, selv om jeg hadde masse venner og var i ‘kule gjengen’! Det evige spillet og posisjonering og paranoia for hvem som sier hva om hvem i en stor gjeng. Usikkerheten om hvor man selv passer inn og hvem man er. Det dreier seg jo ikke om en buss i seg selv, men om Sanas posisjon oppi et særnorskt fenomen som tydeliggjør kontrasten mellom Sana og ‘de andre’ og konflikten mellom å være tro mot seg selv og egne verdier, og ønsket om tilhørighet i gruppa. Alt i SKAM trenger ikke være voldtekt og selvmord. Hallo? Dette er superrealistisk ungdomsdrama sånn det utspiller seg i Oslo. Hvor denne serien finner sted.
Det absolut största med SKAM, är att den handlar om människans godhet och om utmaningen att våga tro på det. Det är så unikt och banbrytande att även efter tre säsonger när vi fått konstant matat i oss att ALT ER LOVE så sitter vi ändå efter och inför varje klipp och befarar det värsta. Vi dömer och fördömer, förväntar oss intriger, falskhet och otrygghet eftersom det är det vanliga, det är det som alla berättelser alltid handlar om, rädsla och att låta den styra oss. Men inte SKAM, skam handlar om kärlek och att våga låta den styra oss, och det är som att för varje klipp jag ser så läker nåt i mitt hjärta, så blir jag mer hel, så vågar jag tro ännu lite mer på kärleken. Det är så fruktansvärt jävla stort så det går knappt att ta in, men på riktigt tror jag att det förändrar världen oändligt mycket mer än tex nån orange president i USA.
Jeg digger at det ikke handler om jenter som bitcher mot hverandre, men jenter som blir venner. Enkelt sagt, men veldig ofte i fiksjon blir sterke vennskap mellom gutter og menn skildret, og det er så fint å se det samme her, både mellom russegjengene, men også mellom Noora og Sana.
Men… Det handler jo nettopp om jenter som bitcher mot hverandre??? Eller var du kanskje ironisk, haha? Litt usikker. Men uansett, vi ser jo nettopp nå at Noora og Sana føler seg som outsiders og at Sara driver med ett eller annet lureri. Vilde og Sana er uvenner IGJEN. Slik begynner jo vær sesong til de finner hverandre igjen… Og nå er det til og med ufint i hele jentegjengen.
Så enig! Dette er Sanas sesong – og de som hun er nærmest er naturligvis med i mange av klippene. Noora er vel hennes nærmeste venninne? Moren og Elias i familien? Og Yousef er hun veldig opptatt av fordi hun er forelsket. Hadde vært lite troverdig å konstruere klipp om andre karakterer (*host host Even*) bare fordi vi elsket Isaks sesong og kunne sett på dem hele dagen… De er faktisk ikke noen Sana tilbringer masse tid med!
Og hun ble bussjef, så kanskje ikke så rart at jobbingen med det er et tema heller? Vi må klare å se forbi bussen og se hva det gjør med Sana å være i den rollen – ganske så nydelig vist i dette klippet hvor hun blir usikker på Sara, men viser seg at hun faktisk hadde fått den mailen…
You do realize that using this s*icide plot with no follow up and no further context is extremely irresponsible and harmful, right? Even is incredibly important to a lot of people and mental illness is something that affects a lot of teenagers, and finding out about his s*icide attempt was very triggering to many of us. It’s very clear that you’re not showing him on purpose and you can’t expect us not to be upset about this. If you drop something that huge about a character we all love and relate to, at least have the decency to treat it carefully and correctly.
She is, and she will. Anyone who might get triggered by this already know that Even is doing ok. If season 3 showed us anything, it is that suicide is NOT the answer, because all is love and you are not alone. For anyone struggling, take it to heart. A mere mention of his earlier struggles does not change that. The ordeal changed Yousef’s view on religion and that is what you should focus on this season, as homosexuality is frown upon in most religions.
So we learn Even tried to cure himself and take his own life but we’re not going to check in with that character at all? Still.. I haven’t seen him in ages. How. Is. He. And I’m not asking for a thousand clips of him, but this is weird and mean, I have chronic depression and I’m just not seeing a level of respect that extends beyond using him for other characters to talk about or for something loud and drastic to happen. Just let us see him???
og selvmordsforsøket,hva som har vært greia med han og Briskebygutta,er mye mer spennende enn den evinnelige russebussen,som tar opp nesten hele sesong 4. Pluss forholdet mellom Sana og Yousef.
so far this week has felt more like a noora-sana season that just sana. srsly so far ALL of the clips were so much focused on noora as well (her for some reason now also being exlcuded from the rest of the gir squad & pepsi max girls which makes NO SENSE whatsoever). i don’t want to deny the friendship between her and sana but c’mon! them suddenly being best friends & so close is so unexpected and unrealistic. sana was a lot more closer to chris in the past seasons but now we barely even get any interaction between them? she was also so far the only one who didnt disrespect sana& her beliefs/relgion (*coughs* noora’s comment abt how muslims can’t go through heartbreaks & her honours killing joke)
1. Season 1 when Noora said she didn`t want to be a part of the bus? She changed her opinion when Sana showed up and Noora said»she was fucking cool!
2. The talk they had in the windowpost abt William and also later in season 2 (Can`t mention everything)
3. They don`t like parties
4. None of them drinks alcohol
5. The comments Noora made abt the muslims and love: you got lost in translation. Small nuances in the language is hard to detect for non norwegian speaking people, but it has all the meaning and importance for the content and action.
And I could have mentioned more ex. She who plays Chris is currently in her demanding dramastudies and is not able to participate all the time at all times.
I’ve decided to imagine Even is happily eating and working on a artsy project in a classroom right now, since apparently nobody else wants to let me know how he is 🙂
Please… Can we know how Even is doing? I don’t understand why you’d share something like that and once again not let us see him like you did in series 3. Can we know how Even is doing. This has nothing to do with his relationship but him as an individual. Or is he once again only being used for dramatics?!
To drop something as drastic and upsetting as Even’s suicide attempt on Friday and then have complete radio silence from his character only to have him come back this Friday for dramatic purposes is actually incredibly upsetting. Fans are reeling over this and currently it’s being completely ignored. This isn’t about Evak or a ship or any of that secondary stuff it’s about a major character in the show having a MAJOR incident in his life recited by someone else in a causal conversation and then nothing. Completely unfair
and do you realize that then major incident happened years ago?!!! its not some news…poeple know about that he wanted suicide when isak safe him back there too. and now he is alive and happy with isak. major character is now sana and what happened with even will show too. so all of you chill.
People are so impatient. If you want to get the same feeling as in previous seasons then don’t follow real time but rather wait until the end and watch all at once – I bet it’s not «slow» or «boring» anymore. This is not some Hollywood action movie, this is Norwegian teenage life real time. How exciting were your every single day or even week in school? I think there is a LOT of story in every clip, every single one of them have a meaning in the whole story and the way we get to follow the main character’s struggles and doubts, in all their nuances. This is Skam and I love it how it is so different from everything else on TV. ?
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Jeg syntes Nora virker så blind. Før så var hu mer skeptisk og tenkte seg bedre om virket det som. Nå så virker det som at hu ikke bryr seg
This show is not good and you’re all even more hilarious for wasting your time in the comment sections.
…? If you don’t even like the show then you are definitely wasting your time in here..?
We can just see the history of Sana’a and Even? About which we know almost nothing.
No Noora, on which we have to watch 4 seasons in a row?
Takk.
Ok men fins det flere her som IKKE synes det er kjedelig? Finnes det flere som LIKER sesongen? Føler meg alene her, gravd ned i «hater denne sesongen» kommentarer.
Här är en till som ikke tycker säsongen är «kjedelig». Du er ikke alene!
FLOTT… Jeg har tillit til Julie Andem
Enig med deg. Alle evak fans hater Noora og William, noe jeg syntes er veldig merkelig. Jeg syntes, tror og håper vi får en fin avslutning både i forhold Evak og Noorhelm til slutt uten at de tar fokuset fra Sana. I denne episoden var det jo INGEN Noora fokus, annet enn at hun satt og pratet litt med Sana. Noora er også en av dem som er et naturlig sidekick til Sana pga hun alltid har vært litt outsider i gjengen selv (drikker ikke, er ikke med på alle fester etc). Jeg tror rett å slett at med 3 NYDELIGE sesonger av SKAM, så har vi blitt for kravstore og kanskje glemt litt av selve essensen med skam, blitt for opphengt i karakterer osv. Dette merker nok JA også, og jeg forstår godt at de gir seg nå. Det er fem episoder igjen, og snart smeller det nok. Vi får en avklaring i alt vi ønsker og vi ender nok opp med å savne og elske Sana også tilslutt, slik som med de andre.
Jeg synes ikke at det er kjedelig i det hele tatt! Jeg er veldig glad i denne sesongen 🙂
Tro meg, du er ikke alene! Holder på å klikke snart over alle hate kommentarene!
I want to see Even as much as the next person but before we all start throwing accusations at Julie for «using Even as a shock value», please remember that there is this restriction called POV. Yes, we as viewers, only knew about Even’s s*icide attempt last Friday but Sana already knew about this for two years (and it’s her season now). It’s unfair to say she «didn’t seem concerned» when we know she has been keeping Even’s past a secret, hasn’t told anybody not even the girls & Isak. And last we’ve seen him? He was happy in bed with Isak. Friday’s revelation doesn’t change that. It’d be weird if they suddenly went out of their way to include Even in everything now.
I know people are complaining that the weekday clips are getting so slow and boring but the same complaint was also made during Isak’s season last year, about how the only «big» clips are on Fridays. Anyway, something rarely happens during the week and that’s a fact so let’s just enjoy this last season because there won’t be anything to complain ever again after June :))
Last year the comment section was filled with speculation and analysis all season long, now that is severly lacking. People complained the first few weeks because we were worried Even only played Isak or would out him, and the girls were missed lots, the guys weren’t always on episode 7 onwards level, and a lot of people also asked for Noorhelm and wanted to know how they were doing. Don’t get me started on the Bånder clip when Noora came back, then people weren’t so keen on her coming back at that moment haha. Some of Isak’s clips were slow but we got inside his head and feelings very fast and by the time Mekke Øl happened we all felt the heartbreak and there was no going back. Also all the night clips turned into many sleepless nights, you just couldn’t go to bed because Isak might be up or you just felt his insomnia anyway. It is hard to let go of the previous seasons but I feel like the camera is not focusing as much on Sana and the clips jump more between her feelings so it at times feel a little shallow. But Friday’s clip was amazing and my heart was beating really fast and the way they looked at each other made me feel all these feelings I’ve missed feeling in Skam. And all the shit that will go down will affect Sana hugely so we’ll soon feel what she feels and thinks all the time. I loved this clip because I could do that during her conversation with Sara.
y’all you cant just drop Even’s suicide attempt and not carry on with it + let us find out about it from a third party and not Even himself and then expect us to care about the russ bus stuff. get your shit together.
We had a chance to see him last season fall in love with a new guy. He is happy and he is living his life to the fullest.
Kjære SKAM redaksjonen og andre i kommentarfeltet:
Vi er ferdige med Even og Isak. Dere fikk en hel sesong med klining. Resten av oss er lei, eller kan ikke relatere til sesong 3, og ønsker dermed å gå videre.
Så du såg bara klining i säsong 3? Du reducerar Even och Isak till klining? OK!
AMEN
Friendly reminder:
This is the LAST season. This season should not be ABOUT SO MUCH NOORA.
Stop watching.. dont you like this blond beatiful girl that are friendsd with Sana?
Husker dere da Eskild hadde overnattingsbesøk i kjelleren? Fant vi noensinne ut av hvem det var? Kan det ha vært noen fra Briskebygutta?
Det var jo Isak ❤️
I want more, I need more! Not even text messages? Pleeeeeaaaaaseeeeeeeee…
Er det virkelig bare jeg som er interessert av russebussen? Synes det er vel mye negativitet nå… Og alle som spør om Even: vi kommer helt sikkert til å få vite det tids nok! Tror neppe at Julie er «ferdig» med forklaringa om hva som skjedde mellom han og ballong-gutta 🙂
Jeg synes dette klippet er viktig, det viser hvor redd Sana er for å ikke bli akseptert som russ og «norsk jente». Hun må alltid være i forsvarsposisjon.
endelig en som er litt fornuftig her.. FLOTT…
Can we trust Sara for real?
men kan dere slutte å mase sånn om å få se hvordan det går med ham fordi du for noen dager siden fikk vite at han en gang forsøkte å ta livet sitt? DET skjedde tross alt et par år tilbake i tid, og jeg vet ikke om du fikk med deg sesong 3, men det går åpenbart mye bedre med Even nå <3 <3 <3 Skal han plutselig reduseres til en stakkar som noen alltid må passe på/sjekke hvordan har det fordi livet var tungt for to år siden? Tror ikke Even ønsker det gitt <3
Du kanske såg hur livrädd han var i korridoren när han spurte Sana om Isak visste någonting, så det är inte så konstigt att folk vill veta hur det går med honom nu eller höra Even själv prata om det som skedde?
Ointressant politisk vinklad säsong med meningslös handling. S2 var bäst detta är skittrist att kolla på. Buhu hon är muslim liksom…
Allt som handlar om människor som har blivit förtryckta och aldrig fått stå i centrum på det här viset är väl politiskt vinklat; «politisk korrekthet» eller kan det vara så att det finns fler människor med historier än tjejen som blir kär i drittsekken och han måste få henne till varje pris?
I don’t know what to think about this season anymore. Sana is my favourite character and I feel she’s not getting the attention she deserves. When season 4 was announced I was so excited to see everything from her perspective, to feel what she feels, to learn about her religion and her feelings about it, to know how is her family life. We are getting all of this, yes, but with very small dosis and it’s not enough. I get why the russebuss is important and I get that Sana needs to prove everyone that she’s a normal teenager. I get it and I want to see it, but I don’t want to see that every clip is about this when we have a lot of storylines going on. This season is getting slower and slower and I’m losing my patience.
Also, who believes that since friday Sana and Yousef haven’t talked or see eachother?? Come on, the balloon squad almost live in their home, how is that possible? They had such an important coversation, they opened their hearts and we don’t get anything form their storyline since friday. And what about Elias? Are you telling me that Sana doesn’t care about his brother getting drunk?
I trust Julie and all the people behind this show, I really do, but I just need to feel that Sana’s character gets the attention she deserves.
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Hekkan for et mas om Even. Han har en birolle. Nå er Skam tilbake der det skal være. Realistisk ungdomsdrama om stort og smått. Even er en perifer karakter i Sanas univers, derfor er det naturlig at han er en perifer karakter i sesong fire.
Når det gjelder Noora så er det og naturlig at hun er den personen Sana henger mest med. De er i midten av videregående årene og da er det helt naturlig at folk som ikke er veldig opptatt av festing og drikking søker mot hverandre – Sana or Noora har jo mye mer til felles enn f.eks Sana og Chris. Det er også de to som er mest skeptisk og mest ulike «Pepsi Max-gjengen».
Traileren begynner med blodet hans. Når Sana spør Yousef om hvorfor han ikke tror på Allah lenger – noe vi skjønner har enormt stor betydning for om det kan bli de to og for Sanas story – svarer han: «du vet Even…». Da tenker jeg at han har noe mer enn en birolle og at det er helt normalt at vi har forventninger om å se mer til ham. Og jeg føler meg ganske sikker på at forventningene blir innfridd.
Han får nok en litt større rolle etterhvert,håper jeg.
Planlegging av russebuss er ikke interessant for noen andre enn de som selv er med på det selv. Dette ligger an til å bli en treig og kjedelig avslutning på en helt fantastisk serie, og det at Sana av alle jentene må få den tørreste sesongen er bare utrolig trist. Pls ikke la Skam ende slik.
Tina, du må bare på fredagene når hele ukes episode legges ut eller slutt å se på SKAM. Julie Andem har lagd 3 flotte sesonger, hvorfor skal ikke nr 4 bli det samme?
Vi har fått med oss at Sana føler seg tilsidesatt. Dette klippet kunne vært ferdig på 30 sekunder. Vi trengte ikke den milelange kjedelige samtalen mellom Noora og Sana. Noora tar all screentimen fra de andre. Vi er jo snart halveis i sesongen og det føles ikke som at det har begynt. Vi fikk liksom akkurat vite at Even prøvde og ta sitt eget liv. Så får vi en fake selfie av Isak og vennene hans som vi aldri hører om mer uannsett. Også skal det liksom holde? Hvordan går det med Even? Det er så sykt urealistisk nå! Er sikkelig skuffa og lei meg over skam i år. Digger Sana, men det handler jo ikke om henne. Det handler om Noora som drikker te og at hun savner han dusten i London. Hade Skam. Si ifra når sesong 4 har tenkt og begynne.
Vore bra om Even flyttade in hos Noora i kollektivet och en dygnet-runt-kamera visar dem i bild hela tiden,oavbrutet, i varje sekund hela 2017!
Evenälskarma får sitt, Nooraälskarna sitt.Inga treminutersklipp!
Och så kan Julie A ta ledigt- det behöver hon nog efter allt gnäll om hur dålig s 4 är.Jag skulle skicka blommor och tacka för stor tv-konst!
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Its obvious that viewers outside Noreay don’t understand about russebusses, but please! Skam was first made for Norwegians viewers and here this is very normal and natural to be interested in! I think many of you are rude towards the skamteam! We should all appreciate what they have given us!
All of you who are hating om Noora as well! I don’t get it. She is closest to Sana and therefore she is a lot around her. The story is still about Sana.
I feel many viewers have changed. Many are so demanding and the vibe here is not the same anymore. I miss the good and caring posts from earlier seasons. Please, be patient, be kind! Julie, you have done a fantastisk job with Skam,- thank you! I thought I would never say this, but I can understand that you will end the show, now. I think what we now see, is that the squad splittes up, the friendships changes and our girls will probably never be on the russebuss together, unfotunately.. I will miss Skam very much, but I realise that it soon is time to say goodbye.. :'(
Sana dreit seg ut der, haha.
Men stoler ikke helt på hun Sara helt enda…
så mye negativitet. kan ikke dere henge på
tumblr istedet og kritiserere ting ihjel der? stedet for negative nancys.
Me: So I hear Even attempted to cure his sexuality and then take his own life, how is he doing?
Skam: … Who? Even? As in bus? As in you want EVEN more BUS? GREAT!!
Evens suicide attempt was the year before he met Isak. Safe to say he is doing ok now, although living as a bipolar person will always be hard in many ways. Thankfully he had Sonja that took care of him and it also seemed like he had the support of his parents. Now Isak is there for him and they are still going strong it seems like. We will have to see what happens when Isak finds out about Mikael. I think he will handle that well, but probably be hurt in some way that Even didn’t tell him about it.
I have no idea why you’re making this about Isak..can I talk about Even a character I relate to and his well being without you dragging it back to Evak.. Again?! That’s not what defines him.
LOL at the person pretending to be different people in the comment section. Nobody said Even is nothing outside of Evak. The recent plot concerning him has shown that he wishes to keep his past from Isak. Safe to assume that the reason is that he is afraid of his reaction. It is literally why Even is worried right now so how is theorizing about that «making it all about Isak»? Being in love with someone means that your own happiness is deeply affected by how the other person is doing. This goes for both Isak and Even and does not mean that they are erasing each other.
What are you talking about different people you make no sense? This is a comment section of course there are different people. You have trust issues Salt? Anyway Evak is not what people are concerned about in this thread of conversation is bye.
What are you talking about? Your comment still has no relation to my original post. I’m not talking about Isak or Mikael why bring them up? It was irrelevant make your own comment. And you’re still erasing even by doing so
People have better things to do with their lives Sodium my dear, I’m the third reply to your comment, your reply to the comment was irrelevant. If you want to talk about Evak do that in your own thread. That’s not what op was talking about. And waxing on about love still. Has.no.point.to.knowing.how.Even.is. So make a comment about Evak thanks bye.
I don’t know what that comment is? Had nothing to do with the original comment. I’m tired of hearing about Evak, but it would be nice to see a just a small text from even after what we learn.
Legit stop talking over people just interested to find out how a character is doing. All this He’s fine now forget about it lets talk about Evak instead!!! Newsflash not everybody wants to talk about Evak 24/7 or Mikael.
That comment had nothing to do with Even and his relationship, people can be curious about Even outside of Evak.
Nobody mentioned Isak and Mikael why are you talking about them?
People can be concerned about Even without thinking about Isak. Although this seems to be brand new information to you.
Even has no perogative to share his history before he’s ready in the same way I’m sure isak hasn’t told him what he did in series 1. It’s his past. Stop trying to vilify him. In fact I don’t even know why we’re talking about Evak, people just are bored of the bus and curious as to how Even is.
Well I’m sure Eva and Jonas will be hurt if they knew he snaked their way into their relationship and ruined it. So we all have a past. Don’t know why you’re making this about Isaks pain and Evak when people just want to know how Even is.
I don’t know who you are 1995 but I didn’t ask you. Bye. Your reply had nothing to do with my comment. Go away.
@Lol or @So, whoever you are.
1995’s comment actually had lots to do with your post.
You wondered how Even is doing after he to cure his sexuality and then take his own life in 2015. 1995 therefore gave you a summary of how life has been in 2016 and so far in 2017…
#INeedBetterKeyboard
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…after he tried to cure…
…of how his life has…
Stop making it about Isak.
He is doing fine these days…
jeg tror vi forventer rask utvikling jmfr julies «shit’s bout to go down». men, de nye karakterene må introduseres, og konfliktlinjene må etableres først. vi har sanas familie, brorens vennegjeng, hennes forhold til egen tro, nærheten til familien (vil ikke skuffe), utenforskapet i flere leire. mye nytt. hadde alt blitt sagt høyt, hadde serien virket simpel og uten lag. her viser man, framfor å fortelle. jeg har trua.
Kl. 10.01 – fick vi höra sagor av Sara?
Tusen og en – Tusen og to – Tusen og tre… –> Shit’s going down…
Digger dette klippet!!! Akkurat sånn opplevde jeg ungdomstiden, selv om jeg hadde masse venner og var i ‘kule gjengen’! Det evige spillet og posisjonering og paranoia for hvem som sier hva om hvem i en stor gjeng. Usikkerheten om hvor man selv passer inn og hvem man er. Det dreier seg jo ikke om en buss i seg selv, men om Sanas posisjon oppi et særnorskt fenomen som tydeliggjør kontrasten mellom Sana og ‘de andre’ og konflikten mellom å være tro mot seg selv og egne verdier, og ønsket om tilhørighet i gruppa. Alt i SKAM trenger ikke være voldtekt og selvmord. Hallo? Dette er superrealistisk ungdomsdrama sånn det utspiller seg i Oslo. Hvor denne serien finner sted.
Why find out how Even is when we can have bus talk?! Silly me ?
He is happy and in love with Isak.
Det absolut största med SKAM, är att den handlar om människans godhet och om utmaningen att våga tro på det. Det är så unikt och banbrytande att även efter tre säsonger när vi fått konstant matat i oss att ALT ER LOVE så sitter vi ändå efter och inför varje klipp och befarar det värsta. Vi dömer och fördömer, förväntar oss intriger, falskhet och otrygghet eftersom det är det vanliga, det är det som alla berättelser alltid handlar om, rädsla och att låta den styra oss. Men inte SKAM, skam handlar om kärlek och att våga låta den styra oss, och det är som att för varje klipp jag ser så läker nåt i mitt hjärta, så blir jag mer hel, så vågar jag tro ännu lite mer på kärleken. Det är så fruktansvärt jävla stort så det går knappt att ta in, men på riktigt tror jag att det förändrar världen oändligt mycket mer än tex nån orange president i USA.
Skamgodt sagt!!!
Skamgodt sagt Kristina!
Fy fæn vad bra sagt Kristina! Skam ger hopp om en mer empatisk och inkluderande framtid.❤️
Jeg digger at det ikke handler om jenter som bitcher mot hverandre, men jenter som blir venner. Enkelt sagt, men veldig ofte i fiksjon blir sterke vennskap mellom gutter og menn skildret, og det er så fint å se det samme her, både mellom russegjengene, men også mellom Noora og Sana.
Men… Det handler jo nettopp om jenter som bitcher mot hverandre??? Eller var du kanskje ironisk, haha? Litt usikker. Men uansett, vi ser jo nettopp nå at Noora og Sana føler seg som outsiders og at Sara driver med ett eller annet lureri. Vilde og Sana er uvenner IGJEN. Slik begynner jo vær sesong til de finner hverandre igjen… Og nå er det til og med ufint i hele jentegjengen.
Si meg, har ikke Sana lov til å ha ei venninne eller?! Slutt og klag over at Noora er der, hvem ellers skulle vært der for Sana i denne plotlinen?
Så enig! Dette er Sanas sesong – og de som hun er nærmest er naturligvis med i mange av klippene. Noora er vel hennes nærmeste venninne? Moren og Elias i familien? Og Yousef er hun veldig opptatt av fordi hun er forelsket. Hadde vært lite troverdig å konstruere klipp om andre karakterer (*host host Even*) bare fordi vi elsket Isaks sesong og kunne sett på dem hele dagen… De er faktisk ikke noen Sana tilbringer masse tid med!
Og hun ble bussjef, så kanskje ikke så rart at jobbingen med det er et tema heller? Vi må klare å se forbi bussen og se hva det gjør med Sana å være i den rollen – ganske så nydelig vist i dette klippet hvor hun blir usikker på Sara, men viser seg at hun faktisk hadde fått den mailen…
Preach! Og atter en gang må vi ikke være så raske med å dømme Julie Andem. Det burde vi ha lært nå 😉
Miss Evak?
…på denna klipp! <3
yousef: so even tried to commit s*icide
sana: i know
sana:
sana: well about the russbus
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LMAO. No.Goodbye.
congrats on noora for getting a second season ! 🙂
Evens story is more interesting than nooras smiles. Allow us to hear it please. From him.
You do realize that using this s*icide plot with no follow up and no further context is extremely irresponsible and harmful, right? Even is incredibly important to a lot of people and mental illness is something that affects a lot of teenagers, and finding out about his s*icide attempt was very triggering to many of us. It’s very clear that you’re not showing him on purpose and you can’t expect us not to be upset about this. If you drop something that huge about a character we all love and relate to, at least have the decency to treat it carefully and correctly.
She is, and she will. Anyone who might get triggered by this already know that Even is doing ok. If season 3 showed us anything, it is that suicide is NOT the answer, because all is love and you are not alone. For anyone struggling, take it to heart. A mere mention of his earlier struggles does not change that. The ordeal changed Yousef’s view on religion and that is what you should focus on this season, as homosexuality is frown upon in most religions.
Folk blir sykt sure når de får for lite LOOOOVE❤️❤️❤️
So we learn Even tried to cure himself and take his own life but we’re not going to check in with that character at all? Still.. I haven’t seen him in ages. How. Is. He. And I’m not asking for a thousand clips of him, but this is weird and mean, I have chronic depression and I’m just not seeing a level of respect that extends beyond using him for other characters to talk about or for something loud and drastic to happen. Just let us see him???
og selvmordsforsøket,hva som har vært greia med han og Briskebygutta,er mye mer spennende enn den evinnelige russebussen,som tar opp nesten hele sesong 4. Pluss forholdet mellom Sana og Yousef.
so far this week has felt more like a noora-sana season that just sana. srsly so far ALL of the clips were so much focused on noora as well (her for some reason now also being exlcuded from the rest of the gir squad & pepsi max girls which makes NO SENSE whatsoever). i don’t want to deny the friendship between her and sana but c’mon! them suddenly being best friends & so close is so unexpected and unrealistic. sana was a lot more closer to chris in the past seasons but now we barely even get any interaction between them? she was also so far the only one who didnt disrespect sana& her beliefs/relgion (*coughs* noora’s comment abt how muslims can’t go through heartbreaks & her honours killing joke)
1. Season 1 when Noora said she didn`t want to be a part of the bus? She changed her opinion when Sana showed up and Noora said»she was fucking cool!
2. The talk they had in the windowpost abt William and also later in season 2 (Can`t mention everything)
3. They don`t like parties
4. None of them drinks alcohol
5. The comments Noora made abt the muslims and love: you got lost in translation. Small nuances in the language is hard to detect for non norwegian speaking people, but it has all the meaning and importance for the content and action.
And I could have mentioned more ex. She who plays Chris is currently in her demanding dramastudies and is not able to participate all the time at all times.
i like Sana and Nooras friendship
I’ve decided to imagine Even is happily eating and working on a artsy project in a classroom right now, since apparently nobody else wants to let me know how he is 🙂
Tipper Sana er en terrorist, og sprenger seg selv og hele bussgjengen i diste episode. Derfor det ikke blir flere sesonger av skam….
blir lei av alle de sure kommentarene her
Please… Can we know how Even is doing? I don’t understand why you’d share something like that and once again not let us see him like you did in series 3. Can we know how Even is doing. This has nothing to do with his relationship but him as an individual. Or is he once again only being used for dramatics?!
omg he is happy. didnt you see clips and photos from isak or what.
jeg tror Sara har et godt øye til noen jeg ;))
To drop something as drastic and upsetting as Even’s suicide attempt on Friday and then have complete radio silence from his character only to have him come back this Friday for dramatic purposes is actually incredibly upsetting. Fans are reeling over this and currently it’s being completely ignored. This isn’t about Evak or a ship or any of that secondary stuff it’s about a major character in the show having a MAJOR incident in his life recited by someone else in a causal conversation and then nothing. Completely unfair
and do you realize that then major incident happened years ago?!!! its not some news…poeple know about that he wanted suicide when isak safe him back there too. and now he is alive and happy with isak. major character is now sana and what happened with even will show too. so all of you chill.
How is the Even? Just a short something to know how he’s feeling?
He fell in love with this guy Isak, who also loves him. They just moved to live together. He is really happy nowadays!
People are so impatient. If you want to get the same feeling as in previous seasons then don’t follow real time but rather wait until the end and watch all at once – I bet it’s not «slow» or «boring» anymore. This is not some Hollywood action movie, this is Norwegian teenage life real time. How exciting were your every single day or even week in school? I think there is a LOT of story in every clip, every single one of them have a meaning in the whole story and the way we get to follow the main character’s struggles and doubts, in all their nuances. This is Skam and I love it how it is so different from everything else on TV. ?
er det bare meg som synes at sesongen er utrolig kjedelig! sånn serr, Vilde skulle ha hatt sesongen ass!
men hva som skjer i Vildes hjem hadde vært interessant. Mor som drikker`??