Filleren Noora er så lite smart.... men yousana går det det bra med tror jeg nå
gå tilbake til william, at hun gidder, han er en dritt med stor D… hadde aldri vert sammens med en slik fyr, Noora fortjener så JÆVELIG MYE bedre … Men glad for det mest sannsynlig order seg for Yousana da <3. men uansett herligste med hele klippet var Evak <3 og Even og ballong gjengen <3 og endelig Linn og Eskild <3
did they seriously introduce even’s tragic past and used it as a plot device to genera drama and tension… only to resolve everything off-screen. without hearing his version of events once. did that seriously happen.
Just happened ??? I was NOT expecting that ! Even though I absolutely loved this clip and seing everyone smiling and being happy I was kind of expecting «more». It doesn’t feel complete to me. Why bring William back when it’s not Noora’s season anymore ? Doesn’t Isak owe an apology to Mikael ? How did Even suddenly become friend again with balloon boys ? Where was Chris, it’s her house and we barely even see her ? What about the whole Bakka drama ? I hope Julie is still planning on explaining to us what actually happened during the fight and at Bakka too. So many questions still. But anyways, Elias’s dance battle with Mahdi was all I needed ❤️
You can still get your answers! There are TWO more episodes left! Why can` we who love Noorhelm just have this happy moment??? William has been away for a year (!!!!), we know that Noora still loves him and we need some answers about that! Maybe this will point out how the girls will move on, now that SKAM soon is over. This is the last season for crying sake and I really hope that N&W are endgame. The same goes for S&Y!
The point is you shouldn’t love noorhelm. And the show has made it seem like it’s okay. That a guy who uses girls even though he knew they have different expectations than him is an alright guy. A guy who pressures girls into having sex without a condom. A guy who does not once make an honest apology. A guy who pressures a girl into dating him by telling her what will happen if she doesn’t. Who clearly indicates that he wants to have sex despite it being unclear whether his girlfriend is ready for that. A guy who at first becomes mad at his girlfriend after his brother harasses her, refusing to listen to her. Who lets her deal with it all by herself. A guy who in the end gets mad at said girlfriend when she is unable to testify in a court (something that is a common issue and very understandable) – instead of helping her. This is not an alright guy. And I agree that season 2 really tried to make it seem that the relationship was okay. But please review the facts and be critical. I get it may sometimes be easier to just take television series as they are. But please keep in mind that the making of a series is creative process wherein creators, writers and directors make conscious choices and that they can thus be held accountable. Honestly, for a moment let go of how the series evidently wanted you to feel about noorhelm and just think of the things about William I just mentioned, can his relationship with noora (who was in season 2 very vunerable) honestly be supported? And if your answer is yes – please think of what terrible things you then apparently condone? Would you feel the same if it concerned a real life friend? In conclusion, the series’ celebration and likely reunion of William and Noora is sending the wrong message to young girls.
Also it takes away from who this season was supposed to be about: Sana
H'okay
It’s not Noora’s season, but tell me all about Even!
did they seriously introduce even’s tragic past and used it as a plot device to genera drama and tension…….only to resolve everything off-screen. without hearing his version of events once. did that seriously happen.
from season 2. you might need to rewatch it, buddy.
william is trash
ever heard of mental abuse cuzzzzz
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Men hva skal nå skje i de to siste episodene? Bare lykke? De kan i hvert fall ikke bevege seg så veldig langt ned, hvis de skal rekke å komme opp igjen (på vårt vanlige Skam-eufori-nivå) innen slutten av sesongen. Jeg vet ikke om hjertet mitt takler så mye lykke som at alt skulle gå bra med alle (Yousef og Sana, Noora og William, Even og Isak) i to hele episoder i strekk.
Tror de er iferd med å runde av historiene. Nå er det N&W (håper på lykkelig slutt for dem <3) og så vil fokus være på andres historier (særlig Sana og Yousef). Synes det er så tragisk at de samme som hyller Isak og Even (spesielt) sprer om seg med negativitet med engang det handler om Noora. Gang på gang får vi høre at Noora tar over Sana sin sesong, men det er de samme som sier "ÅH, vi må vite mer om Even"! Urettferdig, synes jeg..
Sana måste väl prata med föräldrarna om att vara russ och om Yousef. Jag undrar om det kommer något mer från PM-tjejerna.
Även om Sana och de andra tjejerna är sams och vi vet att Yousef gillar Sana så behöver de fortfarande reda ut saker på samma sätt som Sana och Noora gjorde nu.
This literally makes no sense. Wtf. I generally have faith in Julie and trust her to do the best thing but holy shit what’s even the point here. 1) how are they suddenly friends after the shit that went down a few weeks ago (it’s valid for both the Isak/Even/Balloon squad and Sana/Noora/Girl squad mess) 2) William? Seriously? That’s the big reveal? Something which doesn’t concern Sana directly? Ok, I guess 3) There’s still no explanation to Even’s backstory? His friendship with the balloon boys? His suicide attempt, which, at this point, was basically used for shock value? But nope, let’s just bring back that asshole from London just ’cause. I don’t wanna say that I’m disappointed bc at least it was a happy clip but I somehow am. I know the expectations are high on Julie’s shoulders after last season’s succes but this kinda feels rushed and just plain out bad (and a result of everyone’s obsession with Noorhelm tbh). I still have hope for the next clips but jeez, what an underwhelming fredag.
Thing is, Julie was obsessed with Noorhelm first. She wrote S2 first and then later wrote S1 as a lead-in. We had Sana trying to help Noora with her heartbreak earlier in the season and now taking charge and doing what her friend couldn’t by contacting William. Sana’s a friend who cares and is now back to being a boss.
..or maybe you just like Even and are dissapointed now? You hate the fact that Julie tell us more about the N&W story, but at the same time you want to know all about Even? I understand that you are interested in his story, but it is not more fair to Sana`s story to focus on him, then to focus on Noora!
of course we want to know more about Even!!! William didn’t try to commit suicide, did he? William didn’t stop hanging out with his best friends to the point of changing schools without any explanation, did he? William is an asshole who doesn’t deserve any screen time at all.
@ elyely
1. I take it you haven`t seen season 2 and if you have, you haven`t understood Williams story/backstory either…but I can tell you that he is not an asshole. He doesn`t always say or do the right things in the beginning, but there are also reasons for that…if you have a look at the note beside Nooras mirror: «Everyone is fighting a battle you know nothing about». And he certainly fights his own battles, but he grows a lot as a person, opens up more, and there is no doubt whatsoever that he loves Noora. His reaction when he finds out that she (might have) slept with his brother, which he almost hates, destroys him and he shuts off his feelings again and runs. It`s a natural reaction. And you can`t compare two characters like that because they each have interesting stories
2. I am pretty sure I can figure out why Even tried to commit suicide, but this happened a time ago, before he came into the SKAM universe, and it is not relevant to Isaks story in season 3. That season is really about Isak and his struggles to figure out who he, from being insecure to becoming the safe, and comfortable person he is at the end. All the characters around him helps him and supports him with this. Even is still just a sidekick to Isaks story and not the main person. The story between Even and Isak starts when they meet and we see the story in real time through Isaks eyes. And the two big issues he has to face is his own «coming out of the closet experience» and Evens mental illness. if you think about it, you know why Even stopped hanging out with his friends, it has been said and told several times. Otherwise you kinda a step further into Evens life before he meets Isak. If that story should`ve been the focus point, then he would`ve needed maybe his own season. Unfortunately that`s not going to happen, but hey, this is Skam, two weeks left who knows is we will hear Evens story whatever is left to tell and whatever is relevant in Sanas life.
s3lf
even has a huge backstory which involves sanas brother and his friends, and also, islam so it would have been natural to deal with this in sanas season. noora and williams story is so bland and basic, also the fact that william is a horrible person and basically blackmailed noora into going out with him while using vilde for this, he also left her when she needed him most while she was basically having a breakdown when she told him about nikolai. now imagine what kind of message this sends to teenage girls, which, julie andem has said are the target audience of Skam? also it was just completely unnecessary to involve william AGAIN, even though it would have been fine if he would have just stayed in London lol. many people are angry because evens suicide attempt and past has only been used for drama this season.
s3lf
Evens backstory involves Sanas brother and her friends, and also, islam so it would have been natural to resolve this in Sanas season. meanwhile, noora and williams story is bland and basic, and the fact that william is a horrible person who has blackmailed noora into going out with him through vilde. he has left noora when she needed him most after she basically had a breakdown (the scene in which noora tells him about nikolai). now imagine what kind of message this sends to people, especially teen girls which julie has said are the target audience of skam? evens past and mental illness has just been used for drama while williams boring and hateful character is getting screentime again even though it doesnt involve sana at all. of course people are going to be mad at this.
i love bs
Fans have every right to be upset rn bc it looks like we won’t get a scene of Even talking abt his past (since everything is good rn) – that we only will get his past being told by other people, therefore, skam is taking away the voice of the m.i character. basically, skam used Even’s SA for shock value & to generate drama without ever bothering letting him even speak & give his version of it – we only got EVERYONE ELSE speaking for him.
Can you FOR ONCE let mentally ill people speak about their feelings abt this storyline? if it hurts us, it hurts us. PERIOD.
@ Chillpill
I’m sorry but did you read the part where Antonia describes how a SA was brought up for shock value? That is a subject that should be handled with care. That’s why we need to hear from Even. Also Antonia also clearly addresses that the girl squad also should definitely still talk, just like Even and the balloon squad these are plot points not (yet) properly worked out. And does Antonia ever say she minds the focus on Noora? No – she regrets the return of William, an abusive asshole, just when Noora seemed to be doing better again. Please try to read more carefully and especially pay attention to people’s reasoning instead of inventing it for them.
Tori
But Evens story is more relevant to Sanas? It has been since we found out that they knew each other before. Even and Sana also have similar stories with changing school and feeling different and isolated from their friends. Also the little detail that they are actually friends so it makes sense to see them talk while Sana and William barely know each other.
w
The season is not over yet, there might be answers yet
Jeg sitter her og biter i puta og fullstendig friker ut!!
Eskild, Linn… WILLIAM OG CHRIS hvad skjer her liksom?
Jeg visste at Sana brukte exper5 til noe!
Det her blir spennene ass. Shit is about to go down.
Jeg tror Sana har sendt mailen til Noora, ved hjelp av passordet hun fikk. Og at det var det hun skulle til å fortelle før Eva avbrøt dem. Se ansiktsuttrykket til Sana helt på slutten der, litt som om hun tenker at faen, var dette dumt, skulle jeg sagt det før, skulle jeg latt være å sende den? Er så spent på om det er et mulig scenario, samt hvordan dette kommer til å gå!
Hvorfor bruge Evens fortid som et subplot i sæsonen, hvis du ikke havde tænkt dig at vise ham eller lade os høre ham snakke? Det her gør ondt. Så ville jeg hellere have undværet dette plot i det hele taget. Vi har ventet så længe på at se ham blive gode venner med hans gamle Bakka venner (og tale om sin fortid), og så sker det off-screen? Pigerne fik sådan en hjertevarmende scene i onsdags med deres loser van, så jeg havde virkelig glædet mig til endnu sådan en scene, når Even fik sin reunion mellem ham og Bakka drengene. Jeg er rigtig ked af det lige nu.
I sesong 3 var jeg sikker på at de aldri kunne bli ferdig med Isak og Evens historie da det bare var to episoder igjen. Det klarte de fint. Sesong 4 kunne nesten sluttet her, men neida, vi har hele to episoder igjen!! Masse kan skje, og jeg er sikker på at Andem vil gi serien en verdig slutt, der alle karakterens storyline blir avsluttet for oss.
Hvor sannsynlig er det at Even ville tatt sånne samtaler med gutta foran Sana?? Husk: hvis hun ikke er der får vi ikke se det…
Samme gjelder alle som vil se gutta skvære opp etter slåsskampen – det gjør de sikkert, men igjen, ikke så sannsynlig at de driver og gjenoppliver bromancen sin foran Sana? La nå en del greier bare bli forklart gjennom senere handling – vi skjønner jo hva som skjer og har skjedd! Noe av det fine med Skam er jo at vi ikke bestandig får se absolutt alt.
Hva mer er det å vite om Even? Gjennom ham selv, Elias, Yousef og Sonja har vi jo fått vite masse! Mer enn nok. Det er virkelig absolutt ingenting mer der jeg føler noen nysgjerrighet rundt, og så lenge Sana er hovedpersonen ville det jo vært merkelig om vi skulle se deres eventuelle møter. Kan dere ikke være glade for at Even og Isak har vært i en godt forhold i en hel sesong? Det har ingen andre Skampar… Og være glade for at Even ikke har hatt ny maniske episoder (ikke som vi kjenner til iallefall). Even og Isak fans burde være superfornøyde! Rent ut lykkelige! Og dere som bare prater dritt om William; ja, han gjorde dumne ting tidligere, kanskje ikke så rart med en helt ekstrem barndom med en søster som døde i en bilulykke hans gale bror forårsaket og som han selv var med på, og foreldrene som overhodet ikke var tilstede for ham. Men han har det jo fryktelig med seg selv, og han endrer seg jo! Kan det være så vanskelig å se?
Gissar på att Even kanske kommer att vara med på Hei Briskeby klipp. Det är självklart att vi får se Sana återförenas med tjejerna då vi ser det hon ser. Inte lika naturligt att hon skulle vara med när killarna återförenas.
Det skjedde jo ikke off-screen. Sana og Elias pratet om Even og Sana fikk sagt at Even savner gutta. Elias ba henne hilse og alt lå tilrette for at de kunne henge igjen. Evas bursdag ble vel første anledning.
Are you kidding me? Seriously get William of my screen. It was good the way it was. And him and Noora better not get together again. He is a bad person – he is simply written as a person with questionable morals. He toys with girls and didn’t offer Noora support when she wasn’t able to go to the trial. And yet it seems like the creators think this ok? Also Noora doesn’t need to be in a relationship.
Also I thought this was Sana’s season. In the previous seasons those big moments focused on the main character.. but then this??
And lastly, cool to see Even hang out with his old friends again. But when do we get to see Even and Sana talking? Or is that just resolved now? And when are we going to let Even tell his own story? Show how it relates to Sana, their similar experiences. The relation between Even and Yousef which directly affects Sana. That should have been the rest of the season, and with more attention for the Ramadan. But no – instead we get Wilhelm back. Yeah!
Why is it that so many of you Evakfans are such Noora/Williamhaters? I just don`t get it! Alt er love, remember? There are actually room for both couples!
william is manipulative and abusive and noora seems terrified of him. the fact that he’s coming back into her life is terrible for noora, who needs time to recover from an abusive relationship, and it also sidelines sana in her own season, when the focus should be on her. evak was a healthy relationship at least.
Noorhel
Do you think that Sana would contact him if he is abuser??
Jämtkalle
Bra svar!
Skulle en starkt troende muslim utsätta sin bästa vän för en våldtäktsman och dessutom bjuda in honom på fest?Det blir bara för dumt!
Noomi
Obviously you and me have seen two different second seasons?! Jeez…
Sun
Where on earth are you getting these ideas about abuse from?? Did I miss an entire season or something? Noora does not seem terrified of him. I mean yeah, she looks a bit nervous and shocked but who the fuck wouldn’t, given her situation? She hasn’t seen or spoken to him in I don’t know how many months, she had no reason to suspect he’d show up, or any idea why he has. Considering the way she left him it would be a wonder if she WASN’T nervous and scared about his reaction! But that she’s terrified of him and that he’s an abuser? That’s just about the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! What freaking hat did you pull that one out of?
Maja
I don’t know about abusive, but a lot of people perceive William as manipulative and not necessarily a stable partner in the long run. So I don’t think it’s ridiculous. The interesting thing is that the older group seem more sceptical than the younger group, so maybe it all comes down to life experience
I speak for myself but...
I don’t dislike William because I like Isak og Even, I dislike him because of how he treats girls and it’s then excused because he is a rich boy with daddy issues and lost his sister. It’s not excusible. He told a virgin he doesn’t use condoms, not only is that manipulative, something he’s very good at, but outright dangerous, especially with the track record of the amout of girls he has slept with, most likely also telling them he doesn’t use condoms. There are a thousand things I could write, that me and my colleagues have discussed and I know many, many else also have, many have done it in class as well, I’ve heard, since his behavior toward girls and Noora needs to be adressed and told it’s not okay, that you should not be tricked by guys like him. But hey, he did the minimum, even though it was the night to 17 mai, and stayed with his girlfriend when she needed him and he wrote her that article. And guess what? He didn’t change, he started to ignore her and was «dissapoined» in her, which is also soooo emotionally manipulative and wrong. I feel so sorry for Noora! It’s going to happen again and again and she will feel so bad about it and about herself and then hopefully one day down the line she finally leaves him for good. There’s been so much written about this, you’ve probably read and heard many discussions yourself, but don’t pin people’s dislike for William and his behavior on the sake that people like Isak and Even, a lot of people who are meh about them dislike William as well.
@ I speak for myself..
Seriously, have you not seen season two??
A
No, he didn’t leave her. IT was SHE who left him. SHE was the one who thought that he was disappointed, not HE. It was just in her head. And she left him without a word, without an explanation.
He behaved like that before he’d met her. She’s everything he ever wanted. He was very supportive towards her in the second half of the season 2. Almost everybody started to like him. It was intentionally done. Julie wanted us to start to like him as we gradually witnessed his transformation.
Judith
I am suddenly an ‘evak fan’ now? Sure I loved season 3 and the way Isak became more comfortable and the development of his relationship with Even. In the same manner I might be said to be an Eva/ Jonas fan as well because I love Eva’s development throughout season 1, the obvious love Eva and Jonas had for each other even as Eva realised she should become more independent. I like good writing. I like it when the characters I am supposed to like are actually good people who realise things about themselves and who better themselves. Consequently I do not and simply cannot like William. For those of you wondering why William should not be liked I refer to the post by ‘I speak for myself but…’
No sense
So you’re mad that the story between Noora and William gets attention because it’s supposed to be sanas season, but at the same time you want more focus on evens story? That doesn’t make sense…
I simply want more attention for Even because the plotline was brought up! I didn’t make it up. But now that it’s been introduced it should be handled with care. That’s all I am saying. I didn’t go into this season necessarily expecting a plotline relating to Even. I wanted a season about Sana – and I merely think Even and Sana would be able ro relate to each other. Please tell me, how would William and Sana relate? Because it is Sana’s season after all. Please don’t assume things that I didn’t say!
Anna
But the big moment in this clip was Sana and Yousef. This is what the whole season has built up for, and finally it’s all come clear for Sana that Yousef is into her.
As I see it, this William thing is not really about him, but about Sana trying to fix things for Noora- either through getting her and William back together because they still love each other or to get closure and move on. Also, this can either strengthen the trust between Sana and Noora because of Sana’s attempt to get things moving through sending the email, or it could wreck their friendship, since it’s not very nice of someone to use your private email without your knowledge.
However, the Noora-William thing has its own value too, because of the strange way Noora left London. It never felt like it was properly explained, and as far as I’m concerned I’d much rather get to know more about that than having Even’s story in focus again. Since he’s happy and hanging out with both his old and new friends I guess it’s a sign that he’s finally at peace with both the present and the past. Many people are happy to move on and don’t want to «tell their story» to people, and it’s not unlikely Even is one of them.
I know many people are attatched to Evak and their story, which is understandable, but I think other things are more relevant to this season.
This is the LAST season, that`s why they are closing stories from earlier seasons. But sure if it was Even they would tell about than ,that would be totally ok, or what????!! Where does all the hate over Noora and William come from? Really, you know that Noora doesn`t need a relationship? Did you even watch season 2? Maybe they bring back William now, because the last episodes will focus on Sana? I know that many (especially foreign fans) don`t understand how important N&W were to SKAM, from the beginning. That is why they are given more time than the others, like it or not!
why so sour?!
Alot of us want to see Noorhelm happy together/work things out… why u gotta rain on our parade… everyones got their opinion n thats all good.. but try a more positive approach..
i for one cheered on Noora n WIlliam in season 2.. n want a better ending for them than just ‘oh i left him in London without a word’ ..
its the last season .. Julie gotta wrap the stories up.. would love it if we could have 2 more seasons.. but it is what it is…
Remember that this is the last season – it makes sense for Julie to try to provide closure for all the characters, not just Sana, even though she’s more in focus. She’s tying up loose ends so that for instance the William & Noora story isn’t just left hanging, and so that the ending of Skam will feel right, not just as an ending to this season and Sana’s story, but to the show as a whole and to all the stories.
Det mailet som Noora hade i sin inbox som skrev av sig om hennes känslor och rättegången men som Noora aldrig vågade sända… men som Sana nu säkert använt exper5-lösenordet till och gått iväg och sänt.
Fra DK – Kære Julie. Hvorfor bruge Evens fortid som et subplot i sæsonen, hvis du ikke havde tænkt dig at vise ham eller lade os høre ham snakke? Det her gør ondt. Så ville jeg hellere have undværet dette plot i det hele taget. Vi har ventet så længe på at se ham blive gode venner med hans gamle Bakka-venner (og tale om sin fortid), og så sker det off-screen? Pigerne fik sådan en hjertevarmende scene i onsdags med deres loser-van, så jeg havde virkelig glædet mig til endnu sådan en scene, når Even fik sin reunion mellem ham og Bakka-drengene. Jeg er rigtig ked af det lige nu.
Åååå fy f…..Jeg visste det, jeg visste det, jeg håååpet det!!! Wiiiiilllliiiammmm!!! I love UUUUUUU!!! …og nå kan Sana bli sammen med Yousef!! Og det er 2 uker igjen!!! To uker med Noorhelm og Yousana!!! Jeg er lyyyyykkkkkelllligggg! Jeg hyyyylte da jeg hørte bilen! *går i svart*
var mange fine klipp i sesong 3 som har overgått alle… sesong vil alltid være min favoritt, så sesong 1, 4 og 2, 2 var så ræva og måten william behandlet noora på og at hun likevel ville ha han er for meg uforstårlig
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gå tilbake til william, at hun gidder, han er en dritt med stor D… hadde aldri vert sammens med en slik fyr, Noora fortjener så JÆVELIG MYE bedre … Men glad for det mest sannsynlig order seg for Yousana da <3. men uansett herligste med hele klippet var Evak <3 og Even og ballong gjengen <3 og endelig Linn og Eskild <3
did they seriously introduce even’s tragic past and used it as a plot device to genera drama and tension… only to resolve everything off-screen. without hearing his version of events once. did that seriously happen.
Yes! Alt vi har forutsett, i ett og samme klipp!
Julie. Du tar livet av meg. På en god måte <3
I just lost my shit
Just happened ??? I was NOT expecting that ! Even though I absolutely loved this clip and seing everyone smiling and being happy I was kind of expecting «more». It doesn’t feel complete to me. Why bring William back when it’s not Noora’s season anymore ? Doesn’t Isak owe an apology to Mikael ? How did Even suddenly become friend again with balloon boys ? Where was Chris, it’s her house and we barely even see her ? What about the whole Bakka drama ? I hope Julie is still planning on explaining to us what actually happened during the fight and at Bakka too. So many questions still. But anyways, Elias’s dance battle with Mahdi was all I needed ❤️
You can still get your answers! There are TWO more episodes left! Why can` we who love Noorhelm just have this happy moment??? William has been away for a year (!!!!), we know that Noora still loves him and we need some answers about that! Maybe this will point out how the girls will move on, now that SKAM soon is over. This is the last season for crying sake and I really hope that N&W are endgame. The same goes for S&Y!
The point is you shouldn’t love noorhelm. And the show has made it seem like it’s okay. That a guy who uses girls even though he knew they have different expectations than him is an alright guy. A guy who pressures girls into having sex without a condom. A guy who does not once make an honest apology. A guy who pressures a girl into dating him by telling her what will happen if she doesn’t. Who clearly indicates that he wants to have sex despite it being unclear whether his girlfriend is ready for that. A guy who at first becomes mad at his girlfriend after his brother harasses her, refusing to listen to her. Who lets her deal with it all by herself. A guy who in the end gets mad at said girlfriend when she is unable to testify in a court (something that is a common issue and very understandable) – instead of helping her. This is not an alright guy. And I agree that season 2 really tried to make it seem that the relationship was okay. But please review the facts and be critical. I get it may sometimes be easier to just take television series as they are. But please keep in mind that the making of a series is creative process wherein creators, writers and directors make conscious choices and that they can thus be held accountable. Honestly, for a moment let go of how the series evidently wanted you to feel about noorhelm and just think of the things about William I just mentioned, can his relationship with noora (who was in season 2 very vunerable) honestly be supported? And if your answer is yes – please think of what terrible things you then apparently condone? Would you feel the same if it concerned a real life friend? In conclusion, the series’ celebration and likely reunion of William and Noora is sending the wrong message to young girls.
Also it takes away from who this season was supposed to be about: Sana
It’s not Noora’s season, but tell me all about Even!
Bedste klip længe!
Heeeee issss baaaaack. Troede ikke, han ville være med mere. Kæmpe surprise. ELSKER DET! MEN hvad fanden står der i den mail?
did they seriously introduce even’s tragic past and used it as a plot device to genera drama and tension…….only to resolve everything off-screen. without hearing his version of events once. did that seriously happen.
JEG GRINER
Å neeeei…..
Føler jeg er den eneste som håper at Noora og William ikke ender opp sammen….
skam leverer, beste klippet hittil
Hva stod det i den mailen til William??
way to hijack Sana’s season!
Why did you even bother if you wanted to make it all end by praising that abusive relationship again?
Abusive? Where do you get this from?
from season 2. you might need to rewatch it, buddy.
ever heard of mental abuse cuzzzzz
Men hva skal nå skje i de to siste episodene? Bare lykke? De kan i hvert fall ikke bevege seg så veldig langt ned, hvis de skal rekke å komme opp igjen (på vårt vanlige Skam-eufori-nivå) innen slutten av sesongen. Jeg vet ikke om hjertet mitt takler så mye lykke som at alt skulle gå bra med alle (Yousef og Sana, Noora og William, Even og Isak) i to hele episoder i strekk.
Der kommer helt sikkert noget drama med Sanas familie. Moren kan jo ikke lide Yousef. Han er ikke muslim og drikker alkohol
Tror de er iferd med å runde av historiene. Nå er det N&W (håper på lykkelig slutt for dem <3) og så vil fokus være på andres historier (særlig Sana og Yousef). Synes det er så tragisk at de samme som hyller Isak og Even (spesielt) sprer om seg med negativitet med engang det handler om Noora. Gang på gang får vi høre at Noora tar over Sana sin sesong, men det er de samme som sier "ÅH, vi må vite mer om Even"! Urettferdig, synes jeg..
Sana måste väl prata med föräldrarna om att vara russ och om Yousef. Jag undrar om det kommer något mer från PM-tjejerna.
Även om Sana och de andra tjejerna är sams och vi vet att Yousef gillar Sana så behöver de fortfarande reda ut saker på samma sätt som Sana och Noora gjorde nu.
Hahaha, kan ikke bevege seg så langt ned nå… så du sesong 3!??
OMFG ÆÆ SMELTER AV YOUSANA❤❤ OG ER SÅ SPENT PÅ HVA SANA YAR GJORT NÅ. SKAM SVIKTER ALDRI.DENNE SESONGEN E GULL❤❤
Omg Wiliam er tilbake????
Måten William rulla opp i Aston Martin var litt boss. Hadde vært bedre med BMW M4 da ?
Og alle tre kjærestene til Eva på samme fest!
egt ikke adam og eva er ikke sammen enda chris og eva hooka bare og jonas og eva er xkjerester
Alle ikke-kjærestene, da. Kverulant.
Hvem er de 3 kærester?
Elsk! ????
Yeeeeeeees ??
HERREGUD OMG BÄSTA KLIPPET NÅGONSIN WILLIAM AND CHRIS IS BACK BITCHESSSS
VISSTE DET!!!!!!! Han ville komme tilbake. Lurer på hva de betalte.
Takk, Julie! <3
JEEEEEG DØR INNVENDIG AAAAAAHHH
OMG!!! Sitter på biblioteket og har bare lyst å hyyyyyle ut!!! Ting blir seriøst IKKE bedre nå!! 😀
Elsker Sana seriøst!
This literally makes no sense. Wtf. I generally have faith in Julie and trust her to do the best thing but holy shit what’s even the point here. 1) how are they suddenly friends after the shit that went down a few weeks ago (it’s valid for both the Isak/Even/Balloon squad and Sana/Noora/Girl squad mess) 2) William? Seriously? That’s the big reveal? Something which doesn’t concern Sana directly? Ok, I guess 3) There’s still no explanation to Even’s backstory? His friendship with the balloon boys? His suicide attempt, which, at this point, was basically used for shock value? But nope, let’s just bring back that asshole from London just ’cause. I don’t wanna say that I’m disappointed bc at least it was a happy clip but I somehow am. I know the expectations are high on Julie’s shoulders after last season’s succes but this kinda feels rushed and just plain out bad (and a result of everyone’s obsession with Noorhelm tbh). I still have hope for the next clips but jeez, what an underwhelming fredag.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. None of this makes sense. I expected better from Skam.
Thing is, Julie was obsessed with Noorhelm first. She wrote S2 first and then later wrote S1 as a lead-in. We had Sana trying to help Noora with her heartbreak earlier in the season and now taking charge and doing what her friend couldn’t by contacting William. Sana’s a friend who cares and is now back to being a boss.
..or maybe you just like Even and are dissapointed now? You hate the fact that Julie tell us more about the N&W story, but at the same time you want to know all about Even? I understand that you are interested in his story, but it is not more fair to Sana`s story to focus on him, then to focus on Noora!
of course we want to know more about Even!!! William didn’t try to commit suicide, did he? William didn’t stop hanging out with his best friends to the point of changing schools without any explanation, did he? William is an asshole who doesn’t deserve any screen time at all.
1. I take it you haven`t seen season 2 and if you have, you haven`t understood Williams story/backstory either…but I can tell you that he is not an asshole. He doesn`t always say or do the right things in the beginning, but there are also reasons for that…if you have a look at the note beside Nooras mirror: «Everyone is fighting a battle you know nothing about». And he certainly fights his own battles, but he grows a lot as a person, opens up more, and there is no doubt whatsoever that he loves Noora. His reaction when he finds out that she (might have) slept with his brother, which he almost hates, destroys him and he shuts off his feelings again and runs. It`s a natural reaction. And you can`t compare two characters like that because they each have interesting stories
2. I am pretty sure I can figure out why Even tried to commit suicide, but this happened a time ago, before he came into the SKAM universe, and it is not relevant to Isaks story in season 3. That season is really about Isak and his struggles to figure out who he, from being insecure to becoming the safe, and comfortable person he is at the end. All the characters around him helps him and supports him with this. Even is still just a sidekick to Isaks story and not the main person. The story between Even and Isak starts when they meet and we see the story in real time through Isaks eyes. And the two big issues he has to face is his own «coming out of the closet experience» and Evens mental illness. if you think about it, you know why Even stopped hanging out with his friends, it has been said and told several times. Otherwise you kinda a step further into Evens life before he meets Isak. If that story should`ve been the focus point, then he would`ve needed maybe his own season. Unfortunately that`s not going to happen, but hey, this is Skam, two weeks left who knows is we will hear Evens story whatever is left to tell and whatever is relevant in Sanas life.
even has a huge backstory which involves sanas brother and his friends, and also, islam so it would have been natural to deal with this in sanas season. noora and williams story is so bland and basic, also the fact that william is a horrible person and basically blackmailed noora into going out with him while using vilde for this, he also left her when she needed him most while she was basically having a breakdown when she told him about nikolai. now imagine what kind of message this sends to teenage girls, which, julie andem has said are the target audience of Skam? also it was just completely unnecessary to involve william AGAIN, even though it would have been fine if he would have just stayed in London lol. many people are angry because evens suicide attempt and past has only been used for drama this season.
Evens backstory involves Sanas brother and her friends, and also, islam so it would have been natural to resolve this in Sanas season. meanwhile, noora and williams story is bland and basic, and the fact that william is a horrible person who has blackmailed noora into going out with him through vilde. he has left noora when she needed him most after she basically had a breakdown (the scene in which noora tells him about nikolai). now imagine what kind of message this sends to people, especially teen girls which julie has said are the target audience of skam? evens past and mental illness has just been used for drama while williams boring and hateful character is getting screentime again even though it doesnt involve sana at all. of course people are going to be mad at this.
Fans have every right to be upset rn bc it looks like we won’t get a scene of Even talking abt his past (since everything is good rn) – that we only will get his past being told by other people, therefore, skam is taking away the voice of the m.i character. basically, skam used Even’s SA for shock value & to generate drama without ever bothering letting him even speak & give his version of it – we only got EVERYONE ELSE speaking for him.
Can you FOR ONCE let mentally ill people speak about their feelings abt this storyline? if it hurts us, it hurts us. PERIOD.
I’m sorry but did you read the part where Antonia describes how a SA was brought up for shock value? That is a subject that should be handled with care. That’s why we need to hear from Even. Also Antonia also clearly addresses that the girl squad also should definitely still talk, just like Even and the balloon squad these are plot points not (yet) properly worked out. And does Antonia ever say she minds the focus on Noora? No – she regrets the return of William, an abusive asshole, just when Noora seemed to be doing better again. Please try to read more carefully and especially pay attention to people’s reasoning instead of inventing it for them.
But Evens story is more relevant to Sanas? It has been since we found out that they knew each other before. Even and Sana also have similar stories with changing school and feeling different and isolated from their friends. Also the little detail that they are actually friends so it makes sense to see them talk while Sana and William barely know each other.
The season is not over yet, there might be answers yet
Jeg sitter her og biter i puta og fullstendig friker ut!!
Eskild, Linn… WILLIAM OG CHRIS hvad skjer her liksom?
Jeg visste at Sana brukte exper5 til noe!
Det her blir spennene ass. Shit is about to go down.
Chris ????❤️❤️❤️❤️!!!!!!!!
FYYY FAAAAEEEN, den så jeg ikke komme. NORHELM forever!!!!!
Jeg tror Sana har sendt mailen til Noora, ved hjelp av passordet hun fikk. Og at det var det hun skulle til å fortelle før Eva avbrøt dem. Se ansiktsuttrykket til Sana helt på slutten der, litt som om hun tenker at faen, var dette dumt, skulle jeg sagt det før, skulle jeg latt være å sende den? Er så spent på om det er et mulig scenario, samt hvordan dette kommer til å gå!
MULIG scenario? Ja det er jo det som har skjedd, alle skjønner jo det
WILLIAM!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3
Hvorfor bruge Evens fortid som et subplot i sæsonen, hvis du ikke havde tænkt dig at vise ham eller lade os høre ham snakke? Det her gør ondt. Så ville jeg hellere have undværet dette plot i det hele taget. Vi har ventet så længe på at se ham blive gode venner med hans gamle Bakka venner (og tale om sin fortid), og så sker det off-screen? Pigerne fik sådan en hjertevarmende scene i onsdags med deres loser van, så jeg havde virkelig glædet mig til endnu sådan en scene, når Even fik sin reunion mellem ham og Bakka drengene. Jeg er rigtig ked af det lige nu.
Vi kan da få vite mer om Even. Det er to episoder igjen… Personlig elsket jeg dette, for mitt hjerte har grått for Noora og William siden s.2
Det kanske kommer något på Hei Briskeby? Hade det visats i klippen hade Sana behövt vara åskådare till återföreningen.
I sesong 3 var jeg sikker på at de aldri kunne bli ferdig med Isak og Evens historie da det bare var to episoder igjen. Det klarte de fint. Sesong 4 kunne nesten sluttet her, men neida, vi har hele to episoder igjen!! Masse kan skje, og jeg er sikker på at Andem vil gi serien en verdig slutt, der alle karakterens storyline blir avsluttet for oss.
Hvor sannsynlig er det at Even ville tatt sånne samtaler med gutta foran Sana?? Husk: hvis hun ikke er der får vi ikke se det…
Samme gjelder alle som vil se gutta skvære opp etter slåsskampen – det gjør de sikkert, men igjen, ikke så sannsynlig at de driver og gjenoppliver bromancen sin foran Sana? La nå en del greier bare bli forklart gjennom senere handling – vi skjønner jo hva som skjer og har skjedd! Noe av det fine med Skam er jo at vi ikke bestandig får se absolutt alt.
Hva mer er det å vite om Even? Gjennom ham selv, Elias, Yousef og Sonja har vi jo fått vite masse! Mer enn nok. Det er virkelig absolutt ingenting mer der jeg føler noen nysgjerrighet rundt, og så lenge Sana er hovedpersonen ville det jo vært merkelig om vi skulle se deres eventuelle møter. Kan dere ikke være glade for at Even og Isak har vært i en godt forhold i en hel sesong? Det har ingen andre Skampar… Og være glade for at Even ikke har hatt ny maniske episoder (ikke som vi kjenner til iallefall). Even og Isak fans burde være superfornøyde! Rent ut lykkelige! Og dere som bare prater dritt om William; ja, han gjorde dumne ting tidligere, kanskje ikke så rart med en helt ekstrem barndom med en søster som døde i en bilulykke hans gale bror forårsaket og som han selv var med på, og foreldrene som overhodet ikke var tilstede for ham. Men han har det jo fryktelig med seg selv, og han endrer seg jo! Kan det være så vanskelig å se?
Gissar på att Even kanske kommer att vara med på Hei Briskeby klipp. Det är självklart att vi får se Sana återförenas med tjejerna då vi ser det hon ser. Inte lika naturligt att hon skulle vara med när killarna återförenas.
Det skjedde jo ikke off-screen. Sana og Elias pratet om Even og Sana fikk sagt at Even savner gutta. Elias ba henne hilse og alt lå tilrette for at de kunne henge igjen. Evas bursdag ble vel første anledning.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!
Visste väl att William (och Penetrators-Chris) skulle komma tillbaks! Där fick ni, alla era negativa människor!
Amen!
Are you kidding me? Seriously get William of my screen. It was good the way it was. And him and Noora better not get together again. He is a bad person – he is simply written as a person with questionable morals. He toys with girls and didn’t offer Noora support when she wasn’t able to go to the trial. And yet it seems like the creators think this ok? Also Noora doesn’t need to be in a relationship.
Also I thought this was Sana’s season. In the previous seasons those big moments focused on the main character.. but then this??
And lastly, cool to see Even hang out with his old friends again. But when do we get to see Even and Sana talking? Or is that just resolved now? And when are we going to let Even tell his own story? Show how it relates to Sana, their similar experiences. The relation between Even and Yousef which directly affects Sana. That should have been the rest of the season, and with more attention for the Ramadan. But no – instead we get Wilhelm back. Yeah!
PS: Eva and Sana looked gorgeous
Why is it that so many of you Evakfans are such Noora/Williamhaters? I just don`t get it! Alt er love, remember? There are actually room for both couples!
william is manipulative and abusive and noora seems terrified of him. the fact that he’s coming back into her life is terrible for noora, who needs time to recover from an abusive relationship, and it also sidelines sana in her own season, when the focus should be on her. evak was a healthy relationship at least.
Do you think that Sana would contact him if he is abuser??
Bra svar!
Skulle en starkt troende muslim utsätta sin bästa vän för en våldtäktsman och dessutom bjuda in honom på fest?Det blir bara för dumt!
Obviously you and me have seen two different second seasons?! Jeez…
Where on earth are you getting these ideas about abuse from?? Did I miss an entire season or something? Noora does not seem terrified of him. I mean yeah, she looks a bit nervous and shocked but who the fuck wouldn’t, given her situation? She hasn’t seen or spoken to him in I don’t know how many months, she had no reason to suspect he’d show up, or any idea why he has. Considering the way she left him it would be a wonder if she WASN’T nervous and scared about his reaction! But that she’s terrified of him and that he’s an abuser? That’s just about the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! What freaking hat did you pull that one out of?
I don’t know about abusive, but a lot of people perceive William as manipulative and not necessarily a stable partner in the long run. So I don’t think it’s ridiculous. The interesting thing is that the older group seem more sceptical than the younger group, so maybe it all comes down to life experience
I don’t dislike William because I like Isak og Even, I dislike him because of how he treats girls and it’s then excused because he is a rich boy with daddy issues and lost his sister. It’s not excusible. He told a virgin he doesn’t use condoms, not only is that manipulative, something he’s very good at, but outright dangerous, especially with the track record of the amout of girls he has slept with, most likely also telling them he doesn’t use condoms. There are a thousand things I could write, that me and my colleagues have discussed and I know many, many else also have, many have done it in class as well, I’ve heard, since his behavior toward girls and Noora needs to be adressed and told it’s not okay, that you should not be tricked by guys like him. But hey, he did the minimum, even though it was the night to 17 mai, and stayed with his girlfriend when she needed him and he wrote her that article. And guess what? He didn’t change, he started to ignore her and was «dissapoined» in her, which is also soooo emotionally manipulative and wrong. I feel so sorry for Noora! It’s going to happen again and again and she will feel so bad about it and about herself and then hopefully one day down the line she finally leaves him for good. There’s been so much written about this, you’ve probably read and heard many discussions yourself, but don’t pin people’s dislike for William and his behavior on the sake that people like Isak and Even, a lot of people who are meh about them dislike William as well.
Seriously, have you not seen season two??
No, he didn’t leave her. IT was SHE who left him. SHE was the one who thought that he was disappointed, not HE. It was just in her head. And she left him without a word, without an explanation.
He behaved like that before he’d met her. She’s everything he ever wanted. He was very supportive towards her in the second half of the season 2. Almost everybody started to like him. It was intentionally done. Julie wanted us to start to like him as we gradually witnessed his transformation.
I am suddenly an ‘evak fan’ now? Sure I loved season 3 and the way Isak became more comfortable and the development of his relationship with Even. In the same manner I might be said to be an Eva/ Jonas fan as well because I love Eva’s development throughout season 1, the obvious love Eva and Jonas had for each other even as Eva realised she should become more independent. I like good writing. I like it when the characters I am supposed to like are actually good people who realise things about themselves and who better themselves. Consequently I do not and simply cannot like William. For those of you wondering why William should not be liked I refer to the post by ‘I speak for myself but…’
So you’re mad that the story between Noora and William gets attention because it’s supposed to be sanas season, but at the same time you want more focus on evens story? That doesn’t make sense…
I simply want more attention for Even because the plotline was brought up! I didn’t make it up. But now that it’s been introduced it should be handled with care. That’s all I am saying. I didn’t go into this season necessarily expecting a plotline relating to Even. I wanted a season about Sana – and I merely think Even and Sana would be able ro relate to each other. Please tell me, how would William and Sana relate? Because it is Sana’s season after all. Please don’t assume things that I didn’t say!
But the big moment in this clip was Sana and Yousef. This is what the whole season has built up for, and finally it’s all come clear for Sana that Yousef is into her.
As I see it, this William thing is not really about him, but about Sana trying to fix things for Noora- either through getting her and William back together because they still love each other or to get closure and move on. Also, this can either strengthen the trust between Sana and Noora because of Sana’s attempt to get things moving through sending the email, or it could wreck their friendship, since it’s not very nice of someone to use your private email without your knowledge.
However, the Noora-William thing has its own value too, because of the strange way Noora left London. It never felt like it was properly explained, and as far as I’m concerned I’d much rather get to know more about that than having Even’s story in focus again. Since he’s happy and hanging out with both his old and new friends I guess it’s a sign that he’s finally at peace with both the present and the past. Many people are happy to move on and don’t want to «tell their story» to people, and it’s not unlikely Even is one of them.
I know many people are attatched to Evak and their story, which is understandable, but I think other things are more relevant to this season.
This is the LAST season, that`s why they are closing stories from earlier seasons. But sure if it was Even they would tell about than ,that would be totally ok, or what????!! Where does all the hate over Noora and William come from? Really, you know that Noora doesn`t need a relationship? Did you even watch season 2? Maybe they bring back William now, because the last episodes will focus on Sana? I know that many (especially foreign fans) don`t understand how important N&W were to SKAM, from the beginning. That is why they are given more time than the others, like it or not!
why so sour?!
Alot of us want to see Noorhelm happy together/work things out… why u gotta rain on our parade… everyones got their opinion n thats all good.. but try a more positive approach..
i for one cheered on Noora n WIlliam in season 2.. n want a better ending for them than just ‘oh i left him in London without a word’ ..
its the last season .. Julie gotta wrap the stories up.. would love it if we could have 2 more seasons.. but it is what it is…
Remember that this is the last season – it makes sense for Julie to try to provide closure for all the characters, not just Sana, even though she’s more in focus. She’s tying up loose ends so that for instance the William & Noora story isn’t just left hanging, and so that the ending of Skam will feel right, not just as an ending to this season and Sana’s story, but to the show as a whole and to all the stories.
S1 A lot focus on Vilde and her eating disorder and Vilde and William?
Totally disagre! Guess you first started to watch Skam in season 3…
Hvilken Mail mente William?
Det mailet som Noora hade i sin inbox som skrev av sig om hennes känslor och rättegången men som Noora aldrig vågade sända… men som Sana nu säkert använt exper5-lösenordet till och gått iväg och sänt.
Den Sana skickade till honom från Nooras konto.
Julie f***ings Andem! ❤❤❤❤
OMG SÅ SYYYYKT!
Is there Chris Penetrator or not?
NEI NO
SANAYOUSEFWILLIAMNOORA HALLO HALLO HALLO <3
Sana! Dette her fortjener du så innmari!! ❤️❤️
Fra DK – Kære Julie. Hvorfor bruge Evens fortid som et subplot i sæsonen, hvis du ikke havde tænkt dig at vise ham eller lade os høre ham snakke? Det her gør ondt. Så ville jeg hellere have undværet dette plot i det hele taget. Vi har ventet så længe på at se ham blive gode venner med hans gamle Bakka-venner (og tale om sin fortid), og så sker det off-screen? Pigerne fik sådan en hjertevarmende scene i onsdags med deres loser-van, så jeg havde virkelig glædet mig til endnu sådan en scene, når Even fik sin reunion mellem ham og Bakka-drengene. Jeg er rigtig ked af det lige nu.
Mållös! Jösses? Vad händer?!? Vilket klipp, puh!
ÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆ JEG VET IKKE HVOR JEG SKAL GJØRE AV MEG JEG FRIKER UT!!!!!
Kan Willhem snälla dra tillbaka till London?? Ingen vill have honom här
Joda, visst vil vi det! Alt er love! <3
enig
Jeg glemmer aldrig hvordan William behandlede Noora, da hun troede hun var blevet voldtaget. #FreeNoora … please.
«Ingen» är nog färre än andra!
Hvorfor er det ingen som vil ha han her da? Han er jo ikonisk! Jeg vil ha han her, og etter kommentarene å dømme så er det noen til også.
Ingen??? Er jo Noora og William som er hele serien.
Jeg VIL ABSOLUTT ha William her!!! Og jeg tror ikke jeg er alene! Har du i det hele tatt sett sesong 2? I real time?
Faster? Hæ? Er det Fedon Lindberg?
Eskild ass <3
noen må ringe etter ambulanse det her medbringer hjerteinfarkt
Åååå fy f…..Jeg visste det, jeg visste det, jeg håååpet det!!! Wiiiiilllliiiammmm!!! I love UUUUUUU!!! …og nå kan Sana bli sammen med Yousef!! Og det er 2 uker igjen!!! To uker med Noorhelm og Yousana!!! Jeg er lyyyyykkkkkelllligggg! Jeg hyyyylte da jeg hørte bilen! *går i svart*
Beste episoden ever!<3
JEG TRODDE ONSDAGENS KLIPP VAR SKAM-HISTORIENS BESTE MEN DETTE ER DET BESTE
var mange fine klipp i sesong 3 som har overgått alle… sesong vil alltid være min favoritt, så sesong 1, 4 og 2, 2 var så ræva og måten william behandlet noora på og at hun likevel ville ha han er for meg uforstårlig